G2R Telos 38 Special Ammo 20 Rounds 105 Grain +P Solid Copper Hollow Point

These hard tips keep their shape in a speed strip, or speed loader for every day carry in the pocket. Proven expansion.

Shoots straight and no miss fires. Can't ask for much more.

Absolutely pathetic!!! There is not enough velocity or mass in the fragments for this ammo to anything more than look really cool in the box, which is where this junk should stay, inside the box and on the store shelf. Guns used: Colt Detective Special 2 1/8" barrel, Colt Detective Special with a custom installed 3 1/8 inch barrel, Colt Police Positive Special MKV (Just another Colt Detective Special, only with a 4 inch barrel). So I used small frame Colt revolvers with 2, 3, and 4 inch barrels and cylinder gaps of around 2/1000th of an inch or .002, for the smallest possible cylinder gap of any gun used. Next gun used: Colt Python, 6 Inch .38 Special Target Grade Colt Python, also with a .002" gap, a Smith & Wesson 66 with a 4 inch barrel and a .006 inch gap (A duty pistol) and just to give this trash every possible advantage I got out The Dan Wesson, model 15-1, with the 8, 10, 11 and 12 inch barrels! It was still TERRIBLE! Herein lies a plethora of problems. Number ONE, the bullet weight is very light, and some gun makers will actually VOID THE WARRANTY on the gun for using ammo with bullet weights below 130 grains and some void the warranty below 110 grains. This is 105 grain bullet weight. NUMBER TWO: At barrels of 4 inches, we did start to get into the supersonic velocities but with such a light bullet, the stability was very badly affected when the projectiles went transonic. .38 Special is a notoriously accurate round, because it is SUB-SONIC! You need a heavier projectile to keep it stable as the sound pressure wake catches up with the projectile, and this makes the Telos perform even more horribly at longer ranges. NUMBER 3: The light projectile weight makes for poor penetration, especially when the bullet breaks apart and the largest remaining piece weighs about the same as a .25 ACP round. That makes the stopping power of this ammo absolutely atrociously weak. IT IS TERRIBLE! You would be better off with old lead round point range ammo! I am not afraid or against spending $2, or $3 or $5 or $50 or even $186,005.00 for ammo that does a specific job as advertised. I don't need a pair Javelin Missiles, so that negates the need for the $186,000 ammo, but the best snub nose round is that lead HP SWC (Hollow Point Semi-Wad Cutter) made by Bison Boar, or something like that. The worst round are those G2 Telos copper fall apart rounds. They barely penetrate 4 1/2 inches, when fired from a snubnose and the trocars sometimes don't even penetrate 2 inches. IT IS OVERHYPED JUNK! If you want to spend $1.89 a round (or whatever) look at what is in that speedloader! That's the real golden ticket for a .38 Special! It will mushroom out even when fired from a 1 5/8 inch Chief's Special barrel snub nose revolver, it's accurate, and it's a standard pressure, albeit a very HOT standard CUP pressure round, but it will ALWAYS mushrooms out and it makes a really big mess out of meat, lungs, brains, kidneys, liver. Telos? It's okay at disabling jello, but not so good against living creatures. I can only do one picture, so we have a Colt Detective Special a partial box of Telos, a speed loader loaded with HP SWC soft lead old time FBI loads, and a calculator is up on the top of a really thick book. So, I bought Telos ammo RIP ammo, Civic Duty ammo, Rip Out, and I am not impressed with any of it, except maybe the .223 Rip Out rifle ammo. I am also not at all happy with the store clerk who dumped all this G2 ammo off on me. The markup must be awesome for them!